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But… if you can fundamentally change how someone thinks and reason to be in line with what is “normal”, what is left of the original person?
I do not need a cure.
All of you neurotypicals need a cure from thinking so stereotypically like some sie character with Bad writing who was only made to pay the runtime of the game
Autistic people have the evil sickness of being honest and truthful
Typically Autistic people aren’t manipulative and have strong ethics. We may not understand all the neurotypical behaviors but at least we don’t go around rejecting others.
Also a not of the modern world was likely developed by Autistic people. Thinking differently is good.
Is it well understood what the physiological basis for austism even is?
Lol no, not even remotely. There are theories, like with ADHD, but since it’s a very complex neurological phenomenon it’s far from well understood. If so we could think about how to make neurotypicals finally be a little bit more aware of details!
(The last sentence obviously is a joke, please don’t crucify me)
That’s easy to say when you’re a conventionally attractive person whose powers have no downsides.
I’m pretty sure the guy that melts everything and everyone he touches has a different opinion on the matter.
Yeah the “I know everything about amateur radio” autistic folks don’t want a cure for theirs, but screw the non verbals, constant meltdowns and barely functional ones. Life is a breeze for them.
To be fair, in the context of the movie Storm is being an asshole here. Rogue’s powers are a curse that has left her touch starved and that has ravaged her mental health. Meanwhile, Storm’s power is to literally control the fucking weather with zero downside whatsoever. Shut the fuck up, Storm.
Meanwhile, if they want the secret to never ageing, Halle Berry is RIGHT THERE. The woman’s immortal.
Also the people promising the cure actually had the (temporary) cure.
RFK sells snake oil.
Everybody gangsta until RFK Jr. develops a prenatal test…
Rogue in the films isn’t done justice. Idk comics, but in X-Men Evolution the animated series she
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basically beats Apocalypse 1v1.
In the older animated series she has flight and superstrength as part of her default power sets. I recall her getting those powers from Captain/Ms Marvel.
Im honestly not 100% on this but isn’t her core power set the draining ability.
Iirc the flight,durability and super strength come from another lady who she nearly killed by accident, ended up with them permanently and that added to her general “can’t touch, people die” trauma
Edit : nvm just saw the captain marvel reference, not sure how I missed that the first time
You’re right, she was portrayed as pretty weak in the movies. I feel like she almost took the role of Jubilee when comparing with the original cartoon. But also she did have her moments of weakness in the original cartoon.
Jubilee got that omega glow up when they switched her to dazzler, but yeah OG jubilee was meh, power wise
I know that this is also a joke about cake but in the OG cartoon, the two heavy hitters that almost regularly swoop in and bail out even the likes of Cyclops and Wolverine are definitely Rogue and Storm. But the power levels are strange and inconsistent. One moment they’re god tier and the next they’ll fly straight into the giant bad guy’s slow motion punch and get KO’ed for the next 10 minutes.
Doesn’t Storm have an ancient demon/god gunning to take over her body?
Not in the films.
She also has a very American accent in this scene
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Not at all. She was Kenyan in the comics and had a Kenyan accent in the first film, which she abandoned in subsequent movies.
I think Storm is being flippant but I don’t think she is an asshole or should shut the fuck up.
Storm has absolutely faced discrimination as a result of her powers. She is still a mutant. She is still hunted by the government who want to lock her away in a cage.
Now, I don’t in any way want to discount the pain that Rogue has had to endure. She faces the same problems Storm faces, PLUS the curse of her power causing her to be touch starved and the inadvertent pain she has caused others.
It’s understandable why offering such a cure would be appealing for Rogue. But let’s not forget Rogue has slowly gained more control over her powers. She can have physical contact with people, she even gets to enjoy their powers for a brief time.
Forcing the “cure” on people is the problem. Forcing them through fear or forcing them as a means of control. That’s the problem. It’s totally fine if Rogue decides to take the cure and is of sound body and mind.
Just because a sizable population sees Rogue as a “freak” doesn’t mean that she is one. Storm is reminding her that there is nothing wrong with her. She doesn’t have to make this choice. She’s reminding Rogue that she has friends, she has a (found) family, she has support.
Should Storm perhaps be a little more tactful in how she approaches it? Sure. But she is absolutely right to say it.
rogue literally kills people she touches, it remains baffling that people go “oh but she learned to control her powers”, would you like to try living with the knowledge that if you lose control while petting your cat it fucking dies?
i’ve literally had nightmares about crushing a hamster while trying to hold it in my hands, if xmen was real it would be an astounding feat of mental fortitude for rogue to have not offed herself out of sheer existential dread.
But she doesn’t kill the people she touches, usually
my brother in christ of nazareth, listen to yourself
“she only kills them sometimes!”
That’s not what I meant, and it isn’t entirely accurate anyway. Her power absorbs the energy of the people she touches, it doesn’t just kill them.
I don’t believe Rogue has ever killed anyone with her touch by accident. The most obvious counterpoint would be Carol Danvers, but that situation had as much to do with Ms. Marvel’s powers as it did Rogue’s. Maybe you’re confusing her with another character that has an instant death poke, but in most universes, Rogue’s powers aren’t inherently more dangerous than the average mutant’s, providing she accepts them as part of herself.
She was traumatized by nearly killing someone when her X-Gene first activated, and she refused to gain any sort of mastery over her powers for a long time because of that. Just like other mutants, Rogue’s abilities are core to her identity, and a huge part of her journey was acknowledging that fact and learning to control them. If she had followed your sentiments, she probably wouldn’t have made that journey.
Brain Worm Bobby speaks of a cure in the context of his belief that Autism is a disease.
Sane people talk of a cure in the context of treatment.
no, not really
sane people don’t talk about a cure at all, they talk about unfucking society so people don’t need a “cure” to live lives just as rich and dignified as everyone else.Autism isn’t the disease, capitalism is.
Yeah a better society would help a lot of mental health and developmental issues.
With the goauld controlling his brain of course
I dunno, if an actual cure existed that made me normal and made people want to spend time around me, I’d probably go for it.
problem being an “actual cure” does not now and likely will never exist
What would a cure actually do?
There isn’t a “cure” in the traditional sense as Autism is a core part of your personally. You would basically need to do a brain swap which would mean you would be an entirely different person.
what i want is an adderral equivalent for autism, let me pop a pill in the morning to take the edge off the neurodivergence and then toward the evening i can feel properly like myself again and rawdog 15 public transport videos in a row
Autism isn’t a sickness though. It is a core part of your personality. You can’t just not be Autistic.
ADHD on the other hand is tied to chemical imbalances in the brain so medications can help.
I don’t think you know what autism is. It’s not a personality trait. It’s a developmental disorder. Like ADHD or other mental health disorders it can effect personality traits, but it’s not your personality as much as social media wants you to think it is.
It is a core part of me and lots of other people. We don’t need a “cure” and the rhetoric around “curing” Autism is very dangerous.
You can cure a sickness. Autism is not a sickness.
that’s a very broad statement that i don’t think is really accurate, there’s a lot of overlap and the same symptoms can present for different underlying reasons.
the more troublesome aspects of autism are not really inherent personality traits, my inability to ignore sounds isn’t a part of my identity, and that’s the kind of thing i want to just turn off for most of the working day. It can be useful, i’ll find important details blitheringly obvious while everyone else has no clue they exist at all, but most of the time in modern society it’s just exhausting to live with.
like, when i’m able to perform the coping strategies i’ve developed throughout my life i don’t really behave very autistically as such, instead i’m just a slightly weird guy who goes barefoot.
But if i’m prevented from using the coping strategies and forced to experience unpleasant things that stress me out, i start behaving more and more traditionally autistic as the stress grows.the autistic traits that are part of my identity is stuff like the things i find interesting, being unable to turn off my empathy, my emotions working a bit differently than they do for other people, etc… That’s the stuff i wouldn’t want to turn off.
