• supernight52@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yes, anyone with or without eyes could have seen this one coming. Disney is poison, and kills everything good in entertainment. They are the EA of Hollywood, but even more reprehensible.

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    2 days ago

    I’m genuinely confused by this, the current season of Doctor Who has been excellent. The episodes have been memorable, I’m interested in the overarching story they’ve been building up, solid companions, and a great Doctor.

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      8 hours ago

      Agreed. I love the new Doctor Who episodes, but Disney can still fuck off. I’ll buy it on DVD, later.

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      2 days ago

      Disney invested money, but destroyed the marketing aspect, citing anything considered woke or DEI-related to be non-grata…

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        15 hours ago

        Unfortunately, like many companies chasing after trends in shitty ways, BBC really fucked up Jodie Whittaker’s reign by trying to jump on this woke bandwagon by hiring some of the shittiest soap opera writers they could find, to push every kind of topic around racist, sexism, etc. in the most heavy-handed and clumsy way possible. So much wasted potential when they brought in the first female Doctor.

        And before you start downvoting me for somehow being some right-wing hack just because I said the word “woke”, let’s not forget that Jay Exci, a trans person, wrote a five-hour rant shredding every single episode of that season in detail.

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          Worst parts of Whittaker’s run were:

            1. Chibnal told her to stay in the dark about Doctor Who, and she wasn’t allowed to research the role and watch older episodes, etc.
            1. The writers for the series being much more capitalism is fine, actually. Most bizarre is The Doctor thinking that Space Amazon is cool and based, and not being very working-folk supporting, and I think there were other less blatant occurrences in other eps. too, where Whitaker’s Doctor acted in very undoctery ways (the spiders episode).

          Edit: I’ve just noticed you think Dalek is a bad episode, and therefore your opinion is objectively false. Dalek is a top tier episode, I do agree that later over saturation Dalek episodes, and the Cybermen episodes in New Who do tend to overdo and yet under explore them.

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            I’ve just noticed you think Dalek is a bad episode, and therefore your opinion is objectively false. Dalek is a top tier episode

            Look, you can have your opinion, but I really did not like how the episode was trying to make me feel pity over a fucking overused and single-minded Dalek, when they could have just left them well alone. ST:TNG’s I, Borg expressed the concept of a robotic enemy adapting to the side of good way way way better than any Dr Who episode could.

            Most of the RTD era, while it had some standout episodes, were way too campy for my tastes (Love & Monsters, Fear Her, that fat blob episode, the incredibly shitty ending to the Master). Matt Smith’s first two seasons were peak Dr Who, and it’s a shame Moffat couldn’t figure out how to write stories like that after those seasons.

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      Let me guess. The Daleks? Or maybe the cyber men?

      I gave up when lazy writing constantly pushed to the same boring foe. A giant wheelie bin.

      Really loved Blink with the Angels but I got so tired of it. Think I stopped watching around Matt Smith era and he was quite good.

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        10 hours ago

        No Daleks. No Cyber men.

        Now maybe they’ll appear later, but it seems unlikely.

        But even if they do… That’s fine?

        When I watch Star Wars, I expect Jedi to show up at some point. They don’t need to 100% of the time, but that’s the universe. In Solo we get a brief tease of Maul, which flips the expectation. In Andor season 1 Luthen gifts Andor a Kyber crystal, and his ship does a lightsaber-like spin move. In Season 2 we have the Force healer. In Rogue One we have Chirrut who repeats, “I am one with the Force, the Force is with me.”

        When I watch Doctor Who I expect certain things. Obviously The Doctor, a companion, the Tardis, the sonic screwdriver. I expect to see long time enemies like Daleks, Cyber men or maybe The Master. The Doctor has a mysterious past involving Gallifrey. I know when The Doctor dies, he regenerates.

        Is it all a bit of a trope? Yes. Is that fine? Yes.

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          Agree with many of those things and I don’t mind the occasional return to an old for, but Daleks were ridiculously overused and it wasn’t fine.

          As for Star Wars, switched off long ago. It’s just Disney trying to milk it for a return on investment.

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        14 hours ago

        And they do this same thing every new Doctor. They just front-load the first few episodes with the same tired tropes and enemies we’ve already seen, as if we need to be re-introduced to the same bullshit.

        • Eccleston - A Dalek appears in the sixth episode in one of the worst episodes I’ve seen, and they make them a primary element of the last few episodes of the season
        • David Tennant - Cybermen in the sixth and seventh episode, and they make them a primary element of the last few episodes of the season
        • Matt Smith - Daleks in the third episode
        • Peter Capaldi - Daleks in the second episode (hey, can’t be worse than Kill the Moon), Cybermen in the last few episodes of the season
        • Jodie Whittaker - Daleks in the New Year’s special (I guess they tried to delay it?)
        • Ncuti Gatwa - No Daleks or Cybermen, so maybe they learned their lesson?
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    That’s unfortunate. I think the show has found a new groove and perspective with Ncuti Gatwa as the doctor.

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      I’ve really liked Ncuti as the doctor, I’ve liked the companions as well. I’ve liked a good bit of the overarching mysteries of the last season and this one. But as someone who grew up watching starting from Eccleston, and then went back to watch the original series, the only part of the new season I really dislike is the front and center focus of “Magic” villains. I understand that this was done a bit in the original series as well, but I disliked it there too. It really cheapens the entire narrative when the doctor can somehow overcome what are essentially gods with an almost unsurmountable level of power that doesn’t have to be rooted in some sort of scifi explanation.

      Obviously this is a personal opinion, and it does seem that the target audience has shifted a bit more mainstream (not that it was super niche before, it’s just that stories now feel very surface-level), it just saddens me that a show I liked has taken a turn for the worse, narratively speaking. I’m still mostly enjoying these seasons, and their more grounded stories feel pretty similar to the 2005 series.

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    I like the latest Doctor Who. Commercials in the middle are fucking lame and make me want to pirate that shit even though I’m paying for a service that provides it.

    Otherwise the latest story is awesome! The barber shop spider is good ol Doctor Who

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    Nothing went right for Dr Who after Chibnall poisoned it. Russell T Davies did his best but it’s looking like even he can’t save it now. It’s so weird to see something that’s literally been in the background of my entire life lose it’s way like this.

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    2 days ago

    The last episode sucked. Highly questionable politics and Belinda’s personality was nowhere to be seen. Liked Lux and Story and the Engine though. Really the problem is that 8 episodes haven’t been enough to do interesting things with the characters.